Katty Kay

He joked with the press.

He answered a question in Spanish.

It was good.

I'm being snarky when I talk about his suit.

But so the argument for Rubio is that and here's the main argument.

He can win MAGA voters because he's done enough to shore up his bona fides with Donald Trump.

But he can also win non MAGA voters and Democrats.

J.D.

Vance in a way that J.D.

Vance can.

There's a group called Deep Root Analytics as a GOP polling firm.

They've looked at this and they've shown that more non-MAGA voters would never vote for Vance than would never vote for Rubio.

So Rubio's star in Washington, D.C., a little bit quietly on the rise as he flies off to meet the pope.

That's going to be a fun trip for him because Donald Trump again trashed the pope this week.

What do you think?

I know what you think.

You think they're both in the wood chipper, and I think you might be right, but I think so for different reasons.

Okay.

80 million Catholic voters in the country.

Can I say one other thing, though, that Vance said about the Pope?