Katty Kay

But here's the problem.

The GOP base is still as tied to Donald Trump as it ever was.

People who bother to go out, I mean, honestly, people who bother to go out and vote in a state Senate primary are pretty dedicated voters.

They are on the more extreme wing of the party.

So that's the base, you saw it right there, the MAGA base.

If you want to know how many there are, if you want to know who they are, you needed to be in Indiana on Tuesday.

The geobase is still as tied to Donald Trump as it ever was.

But all of the polls that we've spoken about over the last few weeks have shown us that the rest of the country is moving away from Donald Trump as fast as it can.

So is Ron DeSantis in that scenario the candidate who can square the circle?

Can he stay close to Trump enough?

to win the presidential nomination in 2028, but also persuade a general electorate that there is daylight between him and Trump's policies.

Do you think he can do that?

I don't think he's a skilled enough politician to do that.

Yeah, he's a little weird.

And he wears white Wellingtons.

You can't be president and wear white Wellingtons when you're filmed on the beach.

Oh.

Let's quickly talk about the Ohio race, because there's a bunch of Midwestern races and they're all interesting.

The Ohio race, Sherrod Brown, the former Democratic senator, is running in the primary there to be the Democrats' nominee for senator again.

God knows why he wants to go back into the Senate at the moment, but there you go.