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Katty Kay

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The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

There was some breaking news.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

I just came back from Morning Joe and there's some breaking news about Iranian ships, Iranians possibly firing on American ships and a UAE marked tanker and some confusion about what exactly happened.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But I think we are in a moment where Donald Trump is stuck between war and peace.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And he is trying to get out, but it's not clear that the Iranians are going to let him get out.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And there is an assumption in the White House that economic desperation will make the Iranians come to the table and negotiate.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And it's possible that that's the case.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

They are putting forward proposals that so far have been rejected.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But there's also a possibility that I'm hearing from Iran experts, which is that economic desperation actually makes the Iranians lash out, which could lead to escalation.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And I think what's interesting about what we saw today after Donald Trump had announced this

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

operation freedom to try and get these tankers out of the Straits of Hormuz and liberate them so they can go back to their countries because they've been stuck there now for a couple of months.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

What we saw today was an indication of how quickly things can happen when you're in a war situation, which whatever the president says, America's in a war situation, and you don't quite know which way it's going to go.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

You can have unintended consequences.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And it's possible that the warship was not struck.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

It's possible that these were warning shots fired by the Iranians.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But it's possible that this carries on and we do get somebody being struck and then you get retaliation and then you get escalation.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

Meanwhile, gas prices going up, the president's approval ratings going down.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

Where is Donald Trump and where's his head this Monday morning, Anthony, do you think?

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

So will the UAE, by the way.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

I think those are the options.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

Basically, this will end through negotiation or through escalation.