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Katty Kay

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The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

He's also at home, but trying to make Washington look a lot more regal.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

We're going to talk about that.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

First of all, we're going to talk about the war in Iran and the latest.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

A little bit of confusion this morning about who's shooting at who.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And then in the second half, we're going to talk about Democrats and the Maine and Michigan Senate primaries, which show different sides of democratic populism at work, which is kind of interesting.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But let's start with where we are this morning on Iran.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

There was some breaking news.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

I just came back from Morning Joe and there's some breaking news about Iranian ships, Iranians possibly firing on American ships and a UAE marked tanker and some confusion about what exactly happened.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But I think we are in a moment where Donald Trump is stuck between war and peace.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And he is trying to get out, but it's not clear that the Iranians are going to let him get out.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And there is an assumption in the White House that economic desperation will make the Iranians come to the table and negotiate.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And it's possible that that's the case.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

They are putting forward proposals that so far have been rejected.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

But there's also a possibility that I'm hearing from Iran experts, which is that economic desperation actually makes the Iranians lash out, which could lead to escalation.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And I think what's interesting about what we saw today after Donald Trump had announced this

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

operation freedom to try and get these tankers out of the Straits of Hormuz and liberate them so they can go back to their countries because they've been stuck there now for a couple of months.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

What we saw today was an indication of how quickly things can happen when you're in a war situation, which whatever the president says, America's in a war situation, and you don't quite know which way it's going to go.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

You can have unintended consequences.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

And it's possible that the warship was not struck.

The Rest Is Politics: US
183. Trump Wants Out - But Iran Won’t Let Him

It's possible that these were warning shots fired by the Iranians.