Keith Edwards

in and of itself.

And grief is awful, regardless of whether it happens to someone that you're expecting is going to die or whether it happens unexpectedly.

But then on top of it, for it to be at the hands of someone else is something that is almost impossible to process.

And were you guys very close?

We were not extremely close because we were in a very dysfunctional family.

And I think when you're in a family that's dysfunctional, it is incredibly hard.

I think you're just trying to survive the day.

And I think one way you do that is if you're siblings is you unite.

But I think we just were independent and tried to do it our own ways.

So we weren't extremely close, but...

In what respect?

Well, I had... When she passed away, I got into therapy.

So...

Do people cry on this podcast?

They do now.

Very different from Ben Shapiro, huh?

And in many ways...

that put me on the path i'm on now and you never you never thought about seeking it prior no and it was out of what just desperation desperation i don't know if you ever experienced grief but i was uh not processing the grief and when you don't process your feelings they come out sideways and so i was lashing out at people and i was i was it wasn't good so uh

So I got into therapy.

I still have the same therapist.