Keith Rabois

is quite a sophisticated AB test.

And I think that the political wingmen and the money people that want to be in control know how to run candidates on platforms that can win.

And this is a clear winning strategy in left-leaning major metropolitan centers.

So what I would say, just to refine what you guys are saying, is that this platform is not new.

I've seen it for the last decade.

I think you're going to see it for the next few decades.

It doesn't work.

And so you're going to see the same results in New York City that you've already seen in London, which has become unlivable, sadly, one of my favorite cities in the world.

If you don't believe it, go visit there.

Chicago, which I haven't been to in 15 years and will never go to, is a disaster.

So my point is it just doesn't work.

So you can win.

It actually isn't very effective, and it doesn't scale to the national level.

No firefighters with water in the pipes?

I'll tell you something, which is my view.

My view is much more basic.

It's much less sophisticated than I think what you're saying.

My extremely simpleton view of things is that humans swing in a pendulum-like fashion between poles.

And over multi-decade arcs,

You go between the thing that works to the thing that should work now because it's not the thing before.