Kellie Martin

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What if mind control is real?

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

Can you get someone to join your cult?

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

NLP, aka neuro-linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology.

Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

Mind Games is the story of NLP.

It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits.

He stood trial for murder and got acquitted.

The biggest mind game of all?

NLP might actually work.

This is wild.

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What's the most kind of unbelievable to me is the amount of time that passed that she was able to live with this.

I mean, I think now there'd be DNA everywhere.

I don't understand how you do that.

Do you know what I mean?

It's like, if this was now, there'd be DNA everywhere.