Kelly McGonigal

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The School of Greatness · The Real Reason Stress Is Hurting You | Kelly McGonigal · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

There's still the idea behind it is that one of the skills you have to learn is not falling apart in the presence of pain or suffering.

There's a lot of ways to do that.

Exercise, by the way, is another really good way to do it.

Yes, and like, what do you do when you're, so I have a saying when I work out, when I'm lifting weight, don't have an opinion about it.

either your legs can do this or they can't.

And I'm doing a squat and I will literally say to myself, don't have an opinion about this.

You're either strong enough to do this or you aren't.

And it's okay if you're tired.

It's okay if there's some message in your brain that says, I want to stop.

You check in with reality.

And if you can do this next rep, you do it.

And there's something that you learn in exercise that is about, okay, I'm a container that can hold a lot of things

that can feel difficult, and that I have an instinct to run away from.

And so exercise can be another way to train your capacity to stay in the presence of your own discomfort or somebody else's pain and stress.

That's probably not how I would phrase it.

And here's why.

In my experience, so many people are used to having

their own suffering or trauma minimized, that if you start talking like that, no matter what data you have, in a way you're like suddenly re-traumatizing people.

You're just not doing it right.

Like that is not.

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