Kelly McGonigal

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The School of Greatness · The Real Reason Stress Is Hurting You | Kelly McGonigal · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

Pessimistic, anxious, overwhelmed, existential dread, terrified by life from birth.

Not because necessarily life experiences that have shaped that worldview.

I believe a lot in genetics also.

I think that's my temperament.

I'm drawn a lot to these ideas of choosing positive emotions, reframing things because it's the antidote to my

my habits that can become destructive.

So I think like part of this is as another way that you could, you could introduce me to somebody who needs to seriously come to terms with the reality of suffering and I'd push them in the opposite direction and you know, Oh no, I'm never stressed.

Oh, everything happens for a reason.

I want to be like, I would want to ground them in the opposite.

That is also true.

So, but let's get back to the idea because there is some truth to positive language and mindsets, a really simple example.

We know that the physiology of,

of anxiety and excitement are really similar in your body and in your brain.

And if you were to take someone who's feeling really anxious, measure their heart rate, look at the ratio of stress hormones that are coursing through their bloodstream, and you look at someone who's really excited, they're almost identical.

One of my favorite studies was actually they had people jumping out of airplanes and some people were terrified and some people were like, this is what I live for.

Michelle Pacansky- Physiology looked exactly the same.

Right.

The only difference is the story that they were telling themselves about this experience.

Michelle Pacansky- You know whether they felt capable of it.

And so there's research suggesting that in moments of anxiety, even if truly you're anxious.

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