Kelly McGonigal

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The School of Greatness · The Real Reason Stress Is Hurting You | Kelly McGonigal · 24 Jul 2026 podcast

It's like,

You know, it's funny with depression, often one of the most insidious things about it is depression will actually start to lie to you.

And it will start to tell you there's nothing you can do.

And there's nobody who cares.

And you actually have a very suppressed stress response.

And I don't mean you're not suffering, but stress is, you know, it's a physiological thing.

And it often involves hormones and energy and brain activity that is trying to push you in the direction

of meeting life.

And when you're depressed, you actually stop feeling like there's anything that you can do to meet this moment or that there are other people who could help you and support you.

And that's what's so insidious and ugly about depression is it's a lie.

If you're not in that state, you can really start to read a lot of these signals that we experience as difficult emotions or annoying physiological symptoms of stress.

is actually pointing you to the strengths that you have and how you can respond and what you need in this moment.

There are a lot of theories about this.

I won't say that I know any of them to be better than other theories, but

I do subscribe to the idea that you wouldn't see something in humanity that has no purpose.

So a lot of the things that we experience as not something we would choose for ourselves, things like grief, anxiety, depression, anger, they serve a function.

So one of the thoughts is that depression in its sort of initial form is meant to help you conserve energy and

and withdrawal from reactivity and giving away of your energy and attention so that you can kind of pull back, slow down, pause, and process what's happening in your life.

And psychologists sometimes call that reactive depression.

It's normal.

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