Kelly Slater

No, the LSD guy.

Sorry, I got the wrong Leary.

Did I get the wrong Leary?

Anyway, some Leary.

Yeah.

Whatever.

Just play that one over.

Okay.

Who was the guy?

No, Dennis Leary is the guy.

Timothy Leary was the guy who did, he was testing, he was just taking tons of LSD back in the day.

And anyways, there was a lot of surfers around that era.

And that was kind of like in the 60s and 70s, there was a lot of surfers who were expats that they didn't want to go to war.

They were kind of peaceful people, but they loved chasing, surfing in the waves.

And a lot of them disappeared to Central America and Bali and far off places, you know, South Africa or whatever to go surf and not go to war.

So they almost became like hated by their country because they didn't want to fight, you know.

But so there's an interesting culture that's always been a part of surfing.

But I think ultimately, I guess what I'm getting at is that, you know, surfing really provides feeling and you get a good feedback from that, whether it's a positive or negative.

You know, sometimes you're doing it right.

Sometimes you're doing it wrong.