Kelly Slater

So, yeah.

a smaller board.

That makes it easy.

That makes it easy.

But I think you... We've always, my generation especially, but most... I think...

There's always been this kind of feeling where you need to kind of earn your keep by paddling into big waves first before you tow into big waves.

But that's sort of starting to change.

You're seeing a lot of people who can just, oh, I just started surfing.

I want to tow a big wave.

And it's pretty common now.

And people go to Nazare and want to get towed in on a 60, 70-foot wave.

And they've probably never paddled a 20-foot wave.

So I feel like you kind of have to, like,

You kind of got to earn your keep a little bit just for your own confidence and stuff.

It's dangerous, but my best buddy invented this inflatable vest.

Shane Dorian invented this inflatable vest because Shane had a near-drowning experience.

Himself?

Yeah, he almost drowned in Halfman Bay in California around 2013, I think it was.

from what just being pummeled by a big wave huge like you know 60 foot wave he paddled onto and um he was under for like a minute but you know imagine your heart rate's like yeah you know 150 and you you didn't get a good breath or the wind got knocked out of you and you you know you're

CO2 is high in your blood or whatever, in your lungs.