Kemi Badenoch

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 522. The New Conservative Party | Kemi Badenoch · 17 Feb 2025 podcast

I was the Secretary of State for Industry and Business, and I saw our manufacturing closing down because people said the energy prices were too high. This is crazy. We have to stop it. And there I was fighting my own colleagues and saying, we have to stop this. And they would say, Paris Agreement, the Climate Change Act that Labour brought in, we've got to do it.

Otherwise, we're legally liable and so on. So we did not transition. to remove the framework of the left. We went along with it for many understandable reasons. We didn't have the numbers for most of the time. When we did have the numbers, we were dealing with COVID. But that time has passed now. We need to talk about the future. What are we leaving for our children?

A much better environment, I think, is important. And I don't think we will get it by just closing down all our industry and hoping that China looks after us. That is not serious. We have to be smarter than that.

So why should they trust me? Because they can look at my record. When the net zero debate was happening, you can see me on the screen literally questioning it. So you can trust because of what I have done before. So it's asking people to look at what I did when I had the chance. And it is because every point where I had a fight, I was quite often fighting for other people.

Tackling extreme gender ideology, this was something that took hold, the social contagion across the West. And I fought despite a lot of personal attacks, a lot of threats of cancellation, and I broke through. So I'm not going to hide and not tell people the truth. It is because I am honest that they can trust me. But it is also because I like fixing things. I'm an engineer.

I don't like seeing stuff that's broken and wondering who's coming by to deal with it. I like to deal with it. And I love this country. I love its institutions. I am a builder. I want us to build things. And the problem I have, with other people on the right is that they're so angry, they want to destroy things. They don't have a plan for how to build things.

They just say, well, we'll just do this and we'll tow boats back to France and we'll shoot the people who are coming there and then everything will be fine. You can't... seriously think that that will work. These are people who've never been in the system. So I am a realist. I'm an honest realist. I know how to fix things.

I have the experience, which, you know, you were talking about the reform leader. He doesn't have that experience. He is more a media personality. He talks a lot. If we do not get Labour out because the right is split, we're going to have so much more of this. And we don't want a party that has never had to deal with these things in government before. There is a system that works.

If you try and burn it down without knowing how to replace it, we'll be in trouble. And this is where my experience of other countries comes in. You look at the Arab Spring, for example. You look at revolutions across the world. This sort of rage, and we're going to have a revolution and we'll tear the establishment down, does not tend to end well.

And this isn't saying that people have no right to be angry. Of course they have a right to be angry. I am furious about immigration. It's absolutely too high. There was a lot of carelessness. Who's coming into our country? The culture, the levels of integration are getting lower and lower. No one has a plan for integration. I'm going to work on one. That is what is different about me.

If you just want someone who's going to be angry with you, then that's a totally different proposition. I'm not here to be angry with you. I feel your anger, but I am here to fix things. And that's the big difference between the two of us.

Whether it's on net zero, whether it's on extreme ideology, whether it's on deregulation, whether it was fighting for women's rights, I am somebody who always makes sure that I speak on behalf of those who have no voice. That is what I see my job as. I do not understand this love of global summits and so on. I went to Davos as a Secretary of State

ministers from all over the world tend to meet there because they're all there at the same time and I can see why a lot of people are angry about it because it looks like a closed room where decisions are being made it's not really it's more like a boring conference where people spend a lot of time preening and I didn't enjoy it but once you start seeing those things you start to understand how people get influenced how decisions are made and I'm quite immune to a lot of that

And that is what I want to bring to the leadership of this country. And we've got four more years, at least, of labor. By the time they have finished, there's going to be a big mess to fix. And you're going to want people who understand it and who get it to clean up that mess. You're not going to want people who will just start thinking about it and learning on the job. And that's the offer.

I'm not a lawyer.

And then we can talk about political Islam and how we manage to tackle those problems while having an integrated society, how we fix immigration. which has gone very wrong. And I have a plan. There's so much that we can dive into. But I think too many people have not done the foundational work and they're just angry and they're just talking.

We have a Labour government that is completely clueless, no plans. They've just accidentally found themselves where they are. But there's a way out. And I'm very optimistic about the future, especially for young people. And I think if I was to leave you with a thought, it is that I... am so in despair at how young people see the future.

Because I remember when I was in my 20s, having that quarter-life crisis and wondering where my life was going, I never thought there was no opportunity. I just didn't know which way to go. And... The young people today don't see that anymore. They don't go out, they're not drinking, they're not socializing the way they used to. They're just becoming, they're becoming different.

And that worries me about the future. And it also means that they are more susceptible to a lot of bad ideas, both, you know, what I call the woke left and the woke right. I've now started using the word woke. I never used it before. There's a woke left and a woke right.

And they're going to those places because they're angry about migration and how it looks like it's taken opportunity away from them. They're angry because they think the world is unfair, intergenerational unfairness. We need to give young people the sort of optimism that we had when we were younger. Remember what it was like being 25. It was great. How can we take that away from people?

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