Ken Foy

ultimately connected to a traveler feud, the spark of it, it's suspected of was possibly drugs gone missing in one of these drone drops as well.

So with the increase in this kind of activity, it has led to a sharp increase in violence and attacks, not only prisoner on prisoner, but there has been an increase in attacks on prison staff as well.

Everything from cannabis to heroin and everything in between.

But also, tablets are quite popular and they always have been.

If you take enough of them, you're kind of in a zombie-like state as we often see on the streets, even around here.

Yeah, so it's a matter of very serious concern, but...

It does.

And I think there's been something like in Wheatfield alone, something close to 70 incidents of throw overs recorded so far.

But just to touch on a point you made earlier when you were saying that things are more technologically advanced with the drone use.

There was a real suspicion that children, even infants, were being used to smuggle in contraband into the jail system, even sometimes in nappies.

Yeah.

So they've really tightened up their procedures now in, you know...

what ID a child needs to show.

It needs to be almost proven that you're... It's your son or daughter or whatever.

Yeah, and that's only a recent initiative.

But there is a feeling that that's going to also help stem the flow of drugs into the prison.

Yes.

Up until this, and it's only a few weeks ago it was introduced, someone could arrive at that prison and nobody knew who that... The child didn't require ID.

No.

So it didn't necessarily have to be anything to the...