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Episode 1286: Crime World goes inside Wheatfield Prison to see the fight against contraband drones

26 Nov 2025

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Drones are being used to smuggle drugs, weapons, and mobile phones into a Dublin jail on an almost daily basis.Organised crime groups are using skilled drone pilots to drop contraband items into Wheatfield Prison.Niall talks to Crime World correspondent Ken Foy who went inside the jail to see how prison officials are fighting back Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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1.01 - 25.11 Ken Foy

Jamie Gagan, who we featured quite a bit recently, he would be suspected of having played, within the wider system, an organisational role in this kind of activity. But they actually signed, I think it's called a Memorandum of Understanding earlier this year, and it's really led to a much closer working relationship between the two agencies in relation to this problem.

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25.09 - 45.88 Nicola Tallent

I'm Nicola Tallent and this is Crime World, a podcast about criminals, drugs and the sins of the underworld. If you like this podcast and want to learn more about crime, go to our new website www.crimeworld.com for stories, extras and podcast subscriber specials.

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46.621 - 69.697 Niall Donald

Drones are being used to smuggle drugs, weapons and mobile phones into a Dublin jail on an almost daily basis. Organised crime groups are using skilled drone pilots to drop contraband items into Wheatfield Prison. But today I'm speaking to Crime World correspondent Ken Foy, who went inside the jail to see how prison officials are fighting back.

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70.758 - 75.364 Niall Donald

I'm Niall Donald and this is Crime World, a podcast from crimeworld.com.

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79.225 - 100.693 Prison governor (Dave/unnamed governor)

In Wheatfield prison, we have significant challenges regarding throwing incursions into our prison. We have significant fines and successes in detecting contraband. And there's some images here now, if you'd like to have a look. See the way they make the human pyramid, and they go up and reach for the article. Now, that article is on fire, that particular prisoners that they're grabbing.

100.673 - 121.063 Prison governor (Dave/unnamed governor)

So then they bring it in into a huddle then and it's dispersed amongst them. And the colour, I suppose, the contraband that's coloured will be dished out amongst the prisoners. So it's the same job of prisoners coming in. And if needs be, we can isolate prisoners and put them into closed supervision cells or special cells if we think they have concealed contraband.

121.263 - 156.297 Prison governor (Dave/unnamed governor)

We don't send our officers out to a situation like this for the obvious reason. You could be facing... Chief, this particular incident, as with all incidents, we check back on the CCTV, identifying the known assailants, the people who have received the contraband and the people who are directing others to receive the contraband. And then we use the mechanisms at hand regarding Rule 62, transfers,

157.728 - 173.35 Unknown

and prisoners from structured activity. I can ask that, you know, what are we doing? Or we get questions in, you know, from politicians and we get questions in from everybody outside agencies, journalists, you know, what are we doing in terms of the drug threat and the drone threat in particular that we're facing at the moment?

174.011 - 185.51 Unknown

I have to say that through our efforts and through our drug strategy, there's three pillars to our strategy. It's inform and educate. detect and reduce, and treat and support. We are winning in all of those areas.

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