Ken Hinckley

I think I was an emergency in the 2009 final against Adelaide, and they had won since then, I think it is.

So there's no doubt there needs to be a shift.

I think that the challenging bit, Gerard, is that whoever gets this has got two to three years of very challenging times ahead as they get to the draft, get talent, and they're actually in a – realistically, they're in a race with Tasmania too, Gerard, which has made it even more difficult.

Yeah, I think your first thing you notice about James is he's highly intellectual.

He's also got an aura about him that people gravitate and listen to.

And I think intelligence plus a level of attractiveness in terms of people being compelled to you are two pretty important traits.

I think the situation he was in, he came in to support Mark McVay during those sort of 13 weeks was a unique one, but I saw enough there that

you know, he could be a senior coach.

I guess it's a twofold question and he's answered one of them.

It's like, well, is he up for it?

Is he up to be a senior coach?

And is he up to be this senior coach?

And then B is what comes with James Hurd, what Essendon actually need if they're going to just go about their business and improve.

And I think that's what it is.

So I think my first question is, first answer your question is highly capable.

There are no dramas about that.

He could do it.

The second one is, is everything that comes with it.

and the story that it tells what Essendon need to do.

By the way, the other one is Dean Solomon, who's obviously very, you know, entrenched in Essendon.