Ken Hinkley

Even with a few injuries here and there before the game, I'm trying to work out what's the DNA that we're working on.

And I think, Ken, when you start at a club, you've got to put a few lines in the sand about this is us as a team, this is what we do well, and this is what we're going to fall on when times are tough.

So I think, Ken, they're still working on that, let alone winning games.

Yeah, I remember when Paul Roos took over and the Goodwin succession plan just started and he was playing one-on-one and I thought, oh, we're going to have a field day against this mob.

We played them at the G, we won by 114 points and it was like, you know, this team's miles off.

But Roosie had a plan and it was, we're going to be good defensively and we're going to be honest with the way we play and as much as they took some pain for the first couple of years, you can see the slow development about accountability and then you sort of start working into a bit more strategy and

Every under-18s kid, they don't really know how to defend.

They don't.

It's see ball, get ball.

If you're a defender, you're an intercepting defender that knows how to rebound.

Or, you know, you might be good one-on-one with your craft.

But in terms of team defence, it's a tough skill to learn working through junior football.

So that's the hardest skill to teach that I found with the new kids coming through.

But when you've got 15 kids and you're trying to connect everyone on field...

It's bloody hard.

So you're better off just going, everyone find a man.

I think this is what Clarko started with this year.

He went away from the zone, the gap control, and it was just beat your man and leverage when he can.

And I think I see Geelong do that sometimes.

I see the best teams do it sometimes.