Ken Hinkley

I think we would have that.

Tom, yes?

Best Western Bulldogs would be favoured?

Yeah.

That wasn't convincing.

Having said that, Kenny, about their talent, would you then give up the three first-round picks it's going to take to get Zach Butters?

And if you put Zach in and say Darcy comes back and English is okay and O'Donnell and Lobb hold up, is that the right move?

Or are you suggesting that Zach Butters isn't going to be the difference overall?

for them to get where they need to be on the next level.

Well, what do you do then?

Well, Darcy is big.

Lobb wasn't there.

O'Donnell was not there.

And Libba probably shouldn't play next year or maybe even this year if you want to be super responsible about it.

I know that's not our discussion to have.

It's his, but he's getting older and he's had those head knocks.

So, yeah, it's an interesting...

Interesting discussion.

Yeah, I mean, the concerning thing, Tom, for those concussions is when they start to happen pretty easily, like when it's not...

the contact isn't really forceful and you get concussed easier than what you first had.