Ken Hinkley

The Vossi style of football, and that was win the contest, surge it forward, own the territory and defend your front half.

And when that changed somewhat, did Carlton's list have enough change in it to be able to change with it and stay with it?

And the answers we've got are clear, no.

They just didn't have it, whether that be unavailable or capability, you know, and enough of the youth coming through at the right time.

Because there's a bit of work to be done on that list when you look at it from afar now.

And only now you sit back and go, well, where's the actual list at?

Because it can't seem to play modern football for four quarters.

That's the really strange part, though, Gerard.

I go, gee, I've seen them in the last two quarters last week play some...

Great football and a lot of the season I've seen him play some great first half football.

The list somehow has some part of it that's capable.

It's just a matter of doing it for four quarters.

And is that the ability to cover the ground for the full four quarters?

That's the question everyone will ask.

Yeah, it certainly is.

I mean, the long-term culture change.

So when you listen to what Faye spoke about, though, there's a lot around is it a happy place?

You know, is it an enjoyable place?

Do you feel valued when you go to the environment?

And, you know, at Carlton...