Ken Khachigian
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Nov 2024
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Und alles, was er verloren hat, ist weg. Er hat sein Einkommen verloren. Er hat keinen Job.
Nein, er hatte ein Gebäude, aber sie wollten ihn auf sein Gebäude holen. Er musste sein Gebäude wegnehmen, weil sie fühlten, dass er die federalen Ziele nicht gut verwendet hat, um sein Gebäude in Florida zu bauen. Das erinnert mich an jemanden.
Exactly. No, no, they were after him.
Well, not in the end, because he was so resilient. He was mentally resilient. And we can get into that, because this is how we came back. He was already planning his comeback mentally. He was looking ahead. The whole point of that conversation was he was already looking forward and looking ahead. And in those dark recesses of his life, at that moment, he was thinking ahead.
How am I going to rebuild my life? Wie komme ich zurück? Das ist August 8, 1974.
This is 10 days later and I've got about an hour and a half meeting. I'm sure I have notes somewhere. And I'm sitting down with him saying, here's your financial situation. Here's what our options are. Plus, I'm trying to organize the staff budget. We have certain monies that we can get. There's transition funds. And here's the staff we can organize. And it's at that point that he says...
Er wurde von Ziegler erzählt, wie leidenschaftlich ich war, und er wusste, dass ich leidenschaftlich war. Ich habe an der Anti-Entschädigung gearbeitet. Und dann sagt er, schau, ich werde ein Buch schreiben, ein Memoir, und wenn das passiert, möchte ich, dass du hier rauskommst und mit mir meine Memoirs arbeitest. Und ich sagte, ich würde es wirklich lieben, das zu tun.
I'm still on the White House staff working for Jerry Ford. But 10 days later I return to the White House and then I get fired.
Roughly in that time frame.
No, no, no, no. They knew I was out there, but they were eventually going through the White House staff and decided, well, now, who on the White House staff loyal is to him? They're getting rid of him. Yeah, they got rid of Pat Buchanan, they got rid of me. Who's they? Is they Ford? Yeah, Ford's people, yeah.
That's a better way of saying it. We were baggage because they didn't want anybody around who supported the anti-impeachment. Was there friction between Ford and Nixon where Ford didn't like Nixon? I have no idea what went on between the two of them. I think afterwards there was a little bit of bad blood, unfortunately.
Ja, weil, naja, nach dem Entschuldigung, äh, äh, Ford hat viel Wärme genommen und ich denke, er fühlte sich, ich denke, Ford fühlte sich, als hätte er die Präsidentschaft verloren, wegen des Entschuldigungsvermögens. Verstanden, also er hat es auf Nixon geblieben, du weißt, ich war... Auch wenn er die Präsidentschaft bekommen hat, wegen Nixon.
Tausende wären meistens im Büro. Wir haben nicht gelaunt. Wir haben nicht zusammen Golf gespielt. We had dinners rarely, maybe four or five times, six times. And that would have been traveling. When I went with him, I traveled with him to London and Paris in the post-presidency. When he went, he had a speaking engagement in Paris and in London. And he asked me to travel with him.
I went with him when his first grandchild was born. I accompanied him to New York and we had dinners. But we didn't socialize in that way. We spoke on the phone huge amounts of times in his post-presidency to talk politics, to talk about what was going on with Reagan's presidency, Carter's presidency, what was happening in politics.
Aber meistens war es während der Zeit, als ich die Memoiren arbeitete und die Frost-Nixon-Interviews vorbereitete, waren es nur hunderts und hunderts von Stunden, die sich in diesen Jahren verbreitet haben.
Ja, genau. Well, now, there we're probably talking about the book and certain parts of the book. I was responsible for his campaigns throughout the book. I was responsible for the chapters on probably the Supreme Court appointments. in all the various campaigns. And so on those various chapters I'd be going through the sequences of the research I was doing on the books.
But then, because he would get bored with talking about the book, and this was 1976, and you had the presidential primaries going between Reagan and Ford in late 75 and then 76 throughout the Dann gab es die Präsidentschaftskampagne von 1976. Er wurde müde, auf dem Buch zu arbeiten und zu sagen, hey, lass uns über die New Hampshire Prämie reden.
Lass uns über die Prämie in Pennsylvania reden oder die Prämie in irgendeinem anderen Staat. Oder er würde über die Politik reden oder er liebte es einfach nur darüber zu sprechen, was in der Vergangenheit passiert ist oder über Persönlichkeiten.
You know, one time I remember he talked about the 1960 campaign and just right out of the blue he said, you know, instead of putting Henry Cabot Lodge on the ticket, I should have put Thurston Morton, he was the senator from Kentucky, I should have put Thurston Morton on the ticket and I might have won. What a revelation that was. Can you imagine that? I'm giving you a piece of history.
That's crazy. That I didn't even put in my book. Wow. That's a real piece of history I'm telling you right now. Unbelievable.
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