Ken Lawson

Because people think what they see on CSI is like, you know, yeah, you can do it, right? You put it through the fingerprint computer and it comes back. You know what I mean? Or, you know, do all kinds of crazy tests and it's like, okay, it's this guy. They really don't understand the level of junk science. The only true science is DNA. The only true science is DNA.

Because people think what they see on CSI is like, you know, yeah, you can do it, right? You put it through the fingerprint computer and it comes back. You know what I mean? Or, you know, do all kinds of crazy tests and it's like, okay, it's this guy. They really don't understand the level of junk science. The only true science is DNA. The only true science is DNA.

The rest of this stuff, bite mark evidence, it's just crazy. Crazy. But people believe it.

The rest of this stuff, bite mark evidence, it's just crazy. Crazy. But people believe it.

Remember, you got Mr. Allen writing U.S. senators. U.S. senators are writing over here to the governor. You got letters from the governor. So you got all these letters from high-ranking people asking the big island police in the front, like, what are you guys doing? When are you going to solve this crime?

Remember, you got Mr. Allen writing U.S. senators. U.S. senators are writing over here to the governor. You got letters from the governor. So you got all these letters from high-ranking people asking the big island police in the front, like, what are you guys doing? When are you going to solve this crime?

So it's that type of pressure, along with the victim's family, obviously, but it's that type of pressure. It's like, look, you got to do something. And so eventually, each time Frank wants... a benefit or some type of money on his books or some type of, you know, package being delivered or visiting with his girlfriend and stuff like that. He has to give them more information.

So it's that type of pressure, along with the victim's family, obviously, but it's that type of pressure. It's like, look, you got to do something. And so eventually, each time Frank wants... a benefit or some type of money on his books or some type of, you know, package being delivered or visiting with his girlfriend and stuff like that. He has to give them more information.

Hey, Frank, you want something? You got to tell us a little bit more about this case. He eventually walks himself into the murder charge right now. Right. So it goes out. I'm just a witness. I don't know what you're talking about. I saw this. I'm being a good inmate.

Hey, Frank, you want something? You got to tell us a little bit more about this case. He eventually walks himself into the murder charge right now. Right. So it goes out. I'm just a witness. I don't know what you're talking about. I saw this. I'm being a good inmate.

The only true science is DNA. The rest of this stuff, bite mark evidence, it's just crazy. Crazy. But people believe it.

The only true science is DNA. The rest of this stuff, bite mark evidence, it's just crazy. Crazy. But people believe it.

Now keep in mind, too, Gonsalves wants that $25,000, right? Reward money. And so you can only get it if it leads to a conviction. So remember, he gets Frank to call in to say, hey, man, talk about the slices and get mom and dad, get mom and the family off the cocaine. So Frank do it. They get indicted. Then the indictment gets dismissed and there goes John's 25 G's. So now John's calling Ortiz.

Now keep in mind, too, Gonsalves wants that $25,000, right? Reward money. And so you can only get it if it leads to a conviction. So remember, he gets Frank to call in to say, hey, man, talk about the slices and get mom and dad, get mom and the family off the cocaine. So Frank do it. They get indicted. Then the indictment gets dismissed and there goes John's 25 G's. So now John's calling Ortiz.

They say, hey, man. Right. So now they get indicted again. And you'll see the letters in there from Gonsalves talking about, you know, if you can pay the money to Miami or something.

They say, hey, man. Right. So now they get indicted again. And you'll see the letters in there from Gonsalves talking about, you know, if you can pay the money to Miami or something.

He's like the prison priest, but he just happens to wear stripes instead of the white collar.

He's like the prison priest, but he just happens to wear stripes instead of the white collar.

Remember, the prosecutor in both trials hung his hat on that Jimmy Zee T-shirt. This is Frank Pauline's T-shirt. You have witnesses say that this is his Jimmy Zee T-shirt. And it's at the scene. It has Dana's blood on it. You get to see pictures on the autopsy, the broken pelvic, and then the man rapes her, right? And everybody's in the courtroom, and the guy's sitting over there.

Remember, the prosecutor in both trials hung his hat on that Jimmy Zee T-shirt. This is Frank Pauline's T-shirt. You have witnesses say that this is his Jimmy Zee T-shirt. And it's at the scene. It has Dana's blood on it. You get to see pictures on the autopsy, the broken pelvic, and then the man rapes her, right? And everybody's in the courtroom, and the guy's sitting over there.