Ken Vogel
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first heard Oct 2025
last heard 8 Oct
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And so how does Paul Manafort go about doing that?
Well, he brings in Tony Podesta, a prominent Democrat with close ties to the Obama administration through his brother, John Podesta.
He brings in Tad Devine, a Democratic operative who had worked for John Kerry and would go on to work for Bernie Sanders.
He brings in Vin Weber, a former Republican congressman with close ties to Mitt Romney.
So you see like all these people who in the U.S.
are on opposite sides of some of the most heated political fights between the red side and the blue side.
But when they're going abroad and looking to pad their pockets, they're all in alignment on the green side.
That is the side that's able to like pay them the most money.
And so it's quite widespread.
What country does pay the most?
I mean, it's usually there's this dynamic where the ones, the foreign interests are the sort of most toxic and therefore like most, you know, face the most problems from prosecutors at home and in the U.S.
and the U.S.
State Department, U.S.
sanctions.
They oftentimes have the most money, often ill-begotten funds, or at least that prosecutors would say would ill-begotten funds.
and and have the most incentive to try to protect themselves and also they're the ones who like there's the real reputational cost for the well-connected americans who are going to go on their payroll and so they're eyeing it and they're saying like i don't know this is like a real a client that might look really bad so the payday better be worthwhile and so you see um
dictators in Africa.
Joseph Kabila was one.
He was the former president, strongman president of the Democratic Republic of Congo, launched a huge lobbying campaign in 2018 that I write about in the book that brought in people from across the political spectrum and was paying millions of dollars because that's a tough client to take and it better be worth your while.
I mean, I think it was the willingness of Americans to sort of try to frame a political argument in the U.S.
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