Ken Vogel
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first heard Oct 2025
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And so again, it's like the signaling that carries so much weight in, I mean, it carries so much weight everywhere, but particularly in these foreign countries where there's like less of a clear line between like the government and
and the allies of the government who are on the outside and john beretta and hunter and blue star they all sort of like take advantage of this perception that they are kind of unofficially carrying the implementor of the government and that gets them taken seriously and helps their clients
Yeah.
And, you know, their argument at the time, not at the time, but because of the time, this, as you noted, was not really covered.
with the sort of degree of intensity that you would typically think that like a high level conflict of interest scandal involving a top U.S.
official would be.
But after the fact, when this became an issue, the Biden folks argument was, you know, Joe Biden wasn't aware of this.
They wasn't aware of what his son was doing beyond saying, you know, beyond being alerted by news stories that he had joined the board and telling him,
I hope you know what you're doing.
Well, we see from this CIA, this memo where the Biden folks are telling the CIA not to disseminate a memo that really does point out this sort of conflict of interest here, or at least the double standard and the perception of a double standard that like, no, in fact, they were aware of this.
And Joe Biden,
was aware of this, and he didn't want others in his government to be made aware of it.
So whether or not he was actively involved in pushing out a prosecutor because it would benefit his son or his son's client, or whether it just so happened that it benefited the Burisma, you can't argue that he wasn't aware of this potential conflict of interest.
And even if you could argue it-
Yeah, I mean, so clearly he did know that Hunter was on the board of this company and the people around him knew and the people around him and possibly him himself did not want others in the government to be sort of aware of this and sort of focused on it as a potential problem that undercut
u.s's effort to fight corruption uh around the world um you know the other the other thing that's um sort of notable on that front is like this this this memo that was circulate or that they attempted to circulate that the biden folks blocked from circulating came right as the this this um effort by biden to force out the prosecutor was heating up and as blue star's effort to kind of
get to get the U.S.
to back away from the prosecution was really at its apex.
So like this was the moment when people in the government should have been aware of this.
And in fact, we do know that there were some people in the government who were aware of it and were deeply troubled by it and tried to flag it for the vice president himself.
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