Kenny Logan

Maybe I should be, I don't know.

Maybe I don't know, you'd sort of.

I haven't been in this journey before, right?

So it's like everyone else, every day is different.

I want to feel that, and some days, definitely in the last year, I've had days that I feel, oh my God, I feel great.

And others, oh my God, this is like such a slog.

That's everyone's life.

Is that just marriage?

I was going to bring that up.

No, but I think there is an element of,

You can't be up all the time.

So I think you've got to, when you've got that time to be down, like, or when that time you need your own time, really get as much, really have, do something that really helps you to help yourself up for your work, lift yourself up.

Think about yourself a little bit.

But also if it's with your partner, your kids, whatever, think how you can bring yourself into that environment rather than just maybe sometimes being so selfish you don't think about anybody else apart from yourself.

Do you agree with that?

But you obviously... I could...

You see me and I see you, so we've been together for a long time, so you can see the differences.

I don't think it was... I felt like there was this... There was a genuine value of families being together and sitting down and having meals, but that very quickly disappeared.

I can run fast.

And if somebody runs at me, I could probably attack them.