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Kenny Malone

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1215 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

No one said petrostate before you?

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

How do you know that?

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Petro-states are simply countries with an economy built around having oil.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

And overnight, Venezuela had become the first.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Venezuela would not have known about these issues in the 1920s.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

But today, these things have memorable names like the Dutch disease, the resource curse, mono economic exposure to exogenous shock, which, OK, fair enough.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

That doesn't have a memorable name.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

But all of these things would debatably shape Venezuela over the next century.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Like in the Netherlands, when natural gas was discovered, international money poured into this new sector.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

And that raised the value of Dutch currency in the global market, which is great, I guess.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Now, in Venezuela in the 1920s, it was like Dutch disease on steroids.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Remember, they had a coffee industry.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Terry Carl explained to us that the oil boom caused the bolivar, the Venezuelan currency, to skyrocket, which meant Venezuelan coffee was like suddenly way too expensive compared to coffee sold by other countries.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

So which is to say they lose their entire economy up to that point.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Gone.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

So in case you just heard a loud thump, that was Terry doing the motion of a switcheroo of commodities.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Yes.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

Coffee to oil and whack on the old mic.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

You'll also hear this called the paradox of plenty.

Planet Money
Chevron, Venezuela and the Paradox of Plenty

And the evidence for this is spotty as a general rule.