Kenny Malone

For example, once you target a measure, it ceases to be a good measure, I think is one of them.

Hospitals started kind of gaming the statistics.

And one of the most outrageous examples was this practice where patients would be asked to wait inside an ambulance until the hospital was absolutely sure that patient could be seen within the four-hour time limit.

Then the patient came in.

When you first introduced Goodhart's Law, you had a very specific application.

That's correct.

This is not exactly the same.

How do you feel about these broader formulations?

And so, Sarah, I feel like we should introduce a corollary to Goodhart's Law here.

If you decide to name a law, it will become a law, and you may not like what it does to your legacy.

Hello, hello, Check One Two, Kenny Malone here, walking up to the desk of Sarah Gonzalez.

OK, so it's like what?

930 in the morning, Thursday, November 8th.

And we are supposed to be working on the next segment of this episode.

No, we're supposed to tell you about the so-called Parkinson's law, which states essentially that work expands to the time allotted.

And if we're being honest, that should really only take like one day's worth of work.

We are going to do extra interviews that if we're being honest, there's not room for in this piece.

I always do that.

We have a week.

And so the work will expand to fill the week.