Kenny

They thought it was a 1pm tribunal hearing, and that's why Jason Johnson said yes to it, and then it was pushed back to 3.30, and he had to get it to an open for inspection because he's a real estate agent in the late afternoon.

But that's just amateur hour, isn't it?

Yeah, that's right.

If Laura Kane was in charge right now, we'd be saying, Laura, what are you doing?

But Greg Swan really needs to look at this very closely, and that's in his remit.

The other tribunal case.

You've had a crack at the sheriff.

Not at all.

Well, I'm sure he is looking at it, is my point.

He's not going to let this happen again.

Lance Collard is another case that's got lots of people talking.

Sam, again, he said, he said.

Two VFL players believed over one AFL player, and news yesterday or the day before that the Saints are appealing this.

It's not what anyone needs publicly.

least of all St Kilda, who have a pride game against the Swans in a couple of weeks' time as well.

So that will play out this week.

And the Saints will determine their course of appeal based on the same mechanisms that Zach Butters will.

So either it's an error of law, it might be so unreasonable in the circumstances that no tribunal acting reasonably could come to that conclusion.

So that will play out over the next few days and maybe even a week.

And the First Nations component is one of the reasons St Kilda believes that he's been harshly dealt with.