Kerry Washington

By the way, honestly, Will, if you come to see me in something, let's say accidentally, you stumble upon a play that I'm in on Broadway.

You don't know I'm in it.

If you came backstage and you said, I'm not crazy about this one, it would make me feel closer to you than you leaving.

I appreciate the transparency.

You're going to tell me when I suck.

The kiss of death.

Or the like, you guys did that.

That was, you did, wow, you did that.

Well, that's the thing, too, is it's so, you're so vulnerable.

When you're on stage, you're so, there's no edit room.

There's no score to hide the moment that wasn't fully honest.

Like, you're just so vulnerable up there.

So I think that's probably why it was also like a little more raw than usual.

Yeah, I was not a producer in the beginning of Scandal.

I became a producer later on in the life of the show.

And director.

Yes, and director.

But my favorite example of not knowing was we had a guest star named Joe Morton

And Joe Morton is an actor I'm a huge fan of.

He did an incredible John Sayles film called Brother From Another Planet.