Kevin Barker

Yeah, he's going through it, you know, and I'm sure John, well, I know John.

I talked to John enough.

I talked to those coaches enough to know that, you know, they're lighting candles too.

You know, they know who's going to take them where they're ultimately going to end up.

Obviously, John mentioned it, right?

It's going to be Springer.

It's going to be Vladdy.

You know, if those two things don't happen, then they're going to hover right there.

And they're going to hover in places that they don't want to hover in.

And

You know, I'm just not sure moving him down the order.

But it holds more weight when you hear the manager say it.

And I needed to ask it.

Okay, they're running out of things to tell him, too.

That's why I wanted to ask John about that, too, kind of what his job is when a player's going through it and you're this far into the season.

There's just not a whole lot you can say to him now.

He's been in the big leagues long enough.

He's been through slumps enough to know you would hope

How to fix them, how to get out of them, what to lean on.

That's what I said.