Kevin Bass

Joe Ito.

Joe Ito.

Now, Joe Ito was a really important part of it.

Now, Joe Ito was a really important part of it.

Joe Ito was sort of, as far as I can tell, again, you guys know a lot more about this than I do, but as far as I could tell, really going through the files over the last couple of days, Joe Ito was sort of Epstein's gateway into sort of academia, Cambridge, Harvard, science.

Joe Ito was sort of, as far as I can tell, again, you guys know a lot more about this than I do, but as far as I could tell, really going through the files over the last couple of days, Joe Ito was sort of Epstein's gateway into sort of academia, Cambridge, Harvard, science.

That's sort of his main gateway there.

That's sort of his main gateway there.

Reid Hoffman was his gateway into Silicon Valley, into tech, the main guy.

Reid Hoffman was his gateway into Silicon Valley, into tech, the main guy.

And so there is a very close relationship as well between Joe Ito and Hoffman, but there is also very much an independent relationship between Hoffman and Jeffrey Epstein, very much independent of Joe Ito.

And so there is a very close relationship as well between Joe Ito and Hoffman, but there is also very much an independent relationship between Hoffman and Jeffrey Epstein, very much independent of Joe Ito.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Michael, I think this, I think you're making some really interesting points.

Michael, I think this, I think you're making some really interesting points.

I think they're important.

I think they're important.

I think-

I think-