Kevin Cronin

Okay.

Because my dad, a couple years earlier, had told me that I wasn't a natural athlete, which was like, he wasn't trying to be mean.

But to me, at 11 years old, I was crushed by that.

And then a few years later, for my guitar teacher to say, natural rhythm?

I'm like, well, I might not be a natural athlete, but I got natural rhythm.

I've never forgotten that.

And as a result, that's all I play is rhythm guitar.

Yeah, it was interesting because Rich Rath didn't tell anyone in the band what he was doing.

None of the guys.

Irving didn't know.

No one knew.

So I got that going.

But I had Gary on my team.

Okay.

And Irving loved Gary.

I mean, you had to have seen us, you know, back...

at the, you know, in the heyday.

Gary was just, the first time I met him, he walks into my apartment, he's got a brown suede fringed jacket on, you know, this hair, this ringlet hair, he's chiseled, he's like this sinewy dude, he's got this hot chick on his arm, and I'm just like, I'm late for poetry class, you know what I mean?

I'm like, I was just, the fact that he,

he saw, he had to have seen something in me that I hadn't quite seen in myself yet.