Kevin Dawidowicz

I'll tell you, uh, we get to, you get to these periods where you're, you're looking at it and you're, you're looking at the, um, the, the drop dead date and it's always like around 24 months out and then it starts getting closer and closer and then you're like at 12 and then you extend it back out again.

And it's like, okay, like we're, we're going to survive these.

I think the closest we got was to about like a 12 month, you know, period where we're sitting there going, okay, like we've got to figure out like the growth, the growth again.

But we've never been, we've never been shorter than that out.

And we've never been longer than 24 months out.

So we've always had like that weird accordion kind of period happening.

It's not that big.

We've only got 12 people.

We run a very lean organization.

How many engineers?

Four.

So all the co-founders, we're all engineers.

I'm a front-end engineer by trade.

My brother and co-founder is a full-stack developer.

Steven Ostro, who's also a co-founder, is more of our integrations kind of guy.

And then we've got two other hardcore engineers, one who's a hosting infrastructure engineer and the other one who is our front-end developer.

So I haven't been able to touch code in months.

now unfortunately but uh or maybe fortunately but uh you know the development team has been together for quite some time um everybody who's worked together has this is our third startup together uh the other two were when did you launch this one uh 2013 23 and you've done this you haven't bootstrapped you've raised some capital how much have you raised we raised 1. uh 1.85 million

Yeah, it was enterprise software.

I mean, at the time, we were at five or six customers on the enterprise level.