Kevin Maguire

No.

The Prime Minister is saying he's not going to walk away and plunge the country into chaos.

The problem he has is some of his cabinet ministers privately believe if he stays, he plunges his party and the country into chaos.

But he's shown his stickability, saying his resolve for change will be greater.

But there's no doubt his own popularity is so low it's been a drag on Labour members.

If Labour do try to put a positive spin on it, it's rather like the Black Knight in Monty Python's Holy Grail with no arms, no legs, saying it's to the scratch.

But Michael Thrasher, one of the big pollsters, has downgraded Labour losses from 1,800 to 1,200.

which would be roughly half the seats it's fighting.

But that's still a terrible result for Labour.

It just might not be turbo terrible, but it is terrible.

Yeah, I think when we get a picture emerging, it's quite interesting that reform is not hitting 30% of the popular vote.

It's still the biggest party.

It'll make gains on that first part.

That's the post system we have here in...

in england scotland wales um with five parties but it's interesting they're not doing quite as well despite nigel farage's um bit of cheeriness uh as they they may have hoped but the problem for labor is yes you you're expected to be terrible but once the votes are cast the people have spoken they've spoken against you and you have

Whether it's 1,200, half of your councillors contesting seats losing them or a higher result, that all comes home.

And I think there'll be some real psychological blows later when the results come in from Wales, where Labour may finish third, being in power ever since the Senate was created, the dominant party for 100 years.

years in in in that country lost that dominance and it may finish a poor second or third in scotland where the snp are likely to be the biggest party in power again maybe a coalition despite all the rows over police investigations motorhomes and everything so i think

I think it's when the councillors have lost, when the Senate members have lost, I think that's when we'll hear more calls against Keir Starmer.

That's right.