Kevin McKernan
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first heard Nov 2024
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And through that process, they taught the Wuhan Institute of Virology how to do this seamless noceum technique, which is a technique of assembling viral genomes so you don't leave any evidence behind. It's a ligation technique that uses a golden gate assembly. It's a clever way of putting stuff together so that you can't tell that someone built it necessarily from a laboratory. Yeah.
However, they did leave behind some fingerprints that make us that got them caught, basically. And you should if you want to hear about that story, you should get Charles Rixey on here. Charles Rixey has helped, you know, RFK write his book about this. And Charles Rixey is a Marine and he's been like a dog on a bone with this problem. And he was the one who leaked the diffuse proposal.
Are you familiar with the diffuse proposal?
So there was a grant that was proposed to the DOD to go build a weaponized coronavirus under the banner of we need to build a vaccine against this because if we can do it, the Chinese can do it kind of thing. And the DOD turned down the grant because they thought it was too fucking crazy. You'll have something that will leak from this.
But as anyone who's written grants, I've been involved in writing grants for our company. We got like $30 million in grants from NIH. You don't apply with a grant not having done 80% of it. It's just you're looking for the last 20%. Because you just can't.
The grant process is so grueling and so competitive that in order for you to succeed, you have to have all this preliminary data that shows we can get X done. We've demonstrated this piece. We've demonstrated this piece. Now we just need to do this last piece. And in that diffuse proposal, they had used particular restriction enzymes. These are enzymes that cut at particular sequences in DNA.
Those are important because they help guide the way that you cut and paste DNA together. So imagine if you're cutting and pasting a Word document, but your highlighter to highlight what sentence you want to cut can only start and end with certain letters. Those are what restrictions are. So imagine you can only cut and paste where there's a the.
So you would have to then build a paragraph knowing that the paragraphs that have sentences that start with the, we're going to cut with this enzyme. And the ones that have sentences that start with maybe – we have another enzyme with things that start with there, which is a couple more letters onto the, right? And we're going to use those enzymes to cut here.
And by doing that, we can assemble this genome. Well, they had certain restriction enzymes in that diffuse proposal that are present in coronavirus that's currently circulating. And that was kind of the smoking gun that showed that, okay, this was in fact assembled. It was a product of the diffuse proposal. Someone eventually carried out that grant application to its –
And that's what's actually circulating. And Rixie has the whole story on this. You want to talk to him and Alex Washburn. Alex Washburn did some really interesting work mapping out the frequencies of these cut sites in all other coronaviruses. And only in SARS-CoV-2 do they exist in a manner where they are almost perfectly spaced. They build a thing back together in six pieces.
So the Humpty Dumpty comes back together in sort of an engineering way only in SARS-CoV-2. If you look at where those restriction sites exist in all the other coronaviruses we know about, they're kind of randomly scattered. They don't look like someone designed them in. When you look in SARS-CoV-2, they're very perfectly spaced such that an engineer put it together.
And there's a particular set of them near the fear and cleavage site that looks like it's designed to take that fear and cleavage site in and out and mutate it and swap it around so that you can optimize this to actually hit ACE2 receptors. And What's remarkable about the zoonosis thesis is that this thing came out pre-optimized.
Like when we first found SARS coronavirus, the binding affinity to ACE2 was already optimized. That's not normal. Like if this were a zoonotic event, the leap would mean it was unoptimized and would take maybe five or 10 years to become more optimized in the population.
That's another signature that someone had to have a piece inside the design of this virus that they could swap in and out to put a library in there to commentarily screen for fear and cleavage sites in receptor binding domains that would effectively allow them to reach for optimization out of the gate.
And so Charles and Alex have a good story around this about how they use serial passaging and the engineering design that they have in this implicate this as being, in fact, a weapon that was built. And it's not something that hopped over from pangolins and bats and all that stuff. Jesus Christ. Harvey Rich, I think, has another interesting window on this.
It's worth a view on the Ron Johnson thing that I was at. Harvey gave his pitch on like, all right, where the hell did this all come from? And how do we avoid doing this again? And he had the most compelling synopsis, I think, because everyone's been like, can they be this evil? What the hell happened? And I think his story makes the most sense, which is that the biodefense industry, if you will,
has always kind of justified itself on that. We need to be doing gain of function research to protect against a particular weapon. And so we're going to preemptively do all this. Fast forward to 2020, they've never come up with something they've saved us from. And then the first thing that leaks is potentially from their own making, right?
So that puts the biodefense industry on their heels in that we have to be in control of the solution to this. Otherwise, we're non-existent when this is done. So let's get Fauci involved because they had him on payroll. And of course, Fauci, I think you've probably seen some of those emails and conversations that have come out where it's like, you'll have orders, you have things to do.
His emails internally that leaked out of the NIH were like, you'll have things to do tomorrow. You must read this paper. This is a paper about a potential leak, right? Early on, this is like February and the pandemic where it first hit on him that this could have come from money from his pocket. Like it could have come from the WIV, the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
And so suddenly Tony is now implicated.
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