Kevin Rudd

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641 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jul 2026 last heard 14 Jul

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The Ezra Klein Show · What Xi Jinping Wants · 14 Jul 2026 podcast

Now, that, I have to say, is hypothesis.

I do not have strong evidence points of that, but it's not just a corruption equation.

I've also seen American analysts say, for example, that the purges in the

against Taiwan in the coming years.

My experience of these things is that for everyone who is purged, there's a queue of 100 people waiting to take the job.

PLA is a very big beast.

I think it's control being the dominant factor in the equation.

And therefore, the ability of the system to be able to deploy a corruption file against anybody on anything

is large in a formidable security apparatus.

Remember in the organization department of the Chinese Communist Party, which is basically the Uber personnel department, everyone has a file.

And on that file goes a whole bunch of stuff.

And some of it may well be fabricated.

So it is ultimately about whether I choose to pull your file out.

That's true.

Of course, at the end of the day, we don't know how much is the hand of Xi Jinping, how much is it his writing group of people who may get two or three lines of instruction and off they go.

and how much of it is actually a formal party document, which simply has his imprimatur later on.

I'm often not sure that matters.

You're absolutely right.

Having been a political practitioner myself, you are very mindful as a political practitioner of the parameters you set for yourself, for the future, for your party for the future, and for the country, as opposed to private ruminations over a beer.

Let me answer it at two levels.

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