Kevin Rudd
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 14 Jul
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A four would be okay, but it was beginning to slide south of that.
So they've tried to stabilize both these things since about 2024.
You may remember this high-level meeting in early 25 when Jack was finally brought in from the cold together with other… He'd sort of been disappeared for a while.
Yeah, he'd… You didn't see him anymore.
Yeah, he'd been actively studying texts, and I'm sure that included Xi Jinping thought.
I'm not quite sure.
But, you know, he wasn't arrested, but he was not exactly completely free to move either.
Right.
So there's been an effort to bring these folks back into the circle, and also because even under Xi Jinping's industrial policy with cutting-edge new technologies led by artificial intelligence being at the fore, and Xi Jinping realizes that, guess what?
State-owned enterprises can't do all of this.
In fact, most of the juice lies within the Chinese private sector.
We'd better re-embrace them.
So there's been an attempt to correct, but we should not lose sight of the fact that the fundamental, shall I say, move to the Marxist left, move to industrial policy, uber alice, move to the China controlling global supply chains, national party state view of the world is still predominant.
It is.
These other two corrections for consumers and for private entrepreneurs have been more at the margins.
Well, I think, Ezra, you're right to describe that evolution of American perceptions.
And American perceptions are not entirely detached from the underpinning Chinese economic reality.
Sometimes I worry, though, in this country, where I've lived among you now for the better part of 10 years,
Sometimes hope becomes a substitute for analysis and strategy in this country, that Americans, or at least those in administrations of one hue or another, look at Chinese demography.
They look at the slowing of growth and they say, yeah, we told you so, problem fixed, and we move on.
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