Kevin Tawil

Interestingly, my son plays lacrosse for Duke University, and he made it to the national final this past year.

I haven't told him yet that he'll remember that for a long time, but he's got two more years to make that up with the national championship.

Rectify.

Yeah.

Yeah, and then you'll probably forget about the losses.

Okay, so post-McGill.

Post-McGill, I went on to work at Salomon Brothers as a financial analyst in the two-year program.

That was fun.

Fun may not be the right word.

It was sport to work these young men and women as hard as they could.

This is like the Michael Lewis era at Salomon Brothers, right?

Liar's Poker was published when I was an analyst there.

It was truly emblematic of the culture at Salomon Brothers.

I was not on the trading floor.

I was in the building next to it, but the culture permeated the entire organization.

It was very fast, loose, very macho.

Not a lot of guardrails or controls in place there at the time.

It was an education for me and what I really didn't want.

It was the first time I actually worked for somebody else.

And the cultures at investment banks can be challenging, period, but it was pretty challenging with Salomon Brothers in the late 80s.