Kevin Twomey

That's exactly what happened.

You go, I read the notes and you go, oh, yeah, I came up with the answer.

Anyway, PJ is a sociopath.

It basically tells us PJ is a sociopath.

So that's why I'm questioning whether it's actually a form of self-preservation, a defence mechanism.

And it's like when you've experienced some kind of trauma like the pandemic or other people who have been let down repeatedly or taken advantage of by other people, is it easier then to just...

do everything yourself.

Yeah.

You know, and kind of ignore what's happening with other people and just focus on your own doings.

But that's the thing, because it is like environmental, it's not actually a clinical diagnosis.

Is it just a thing that like repeated pattern of behavior that we notice in people?

Because I suppose depending on circumstance and instances, we all have...

the potential to exhibit sociopathic tendencies right and like if narcissism is a level of it i do think especially people who are working in media or like yeah you know working in certain industries are more likely to be a bit more narcissistic and more like self-focused i feel like everyone who like is on social media kind of professionally is narcissistic yeah like it's social media i think it's all a bit narcissistic i would say we are narcissistic for having a podcast

But just being narcissistic alone doesn't make you a sociopath.

Because we have empathy, right?

Yeah.

Because we have empathy, girl, is the name of the act.

But it's more than that.

Because a septic person can also...

Show empathy.