Kevin Woodley

And I'd heard them too.

But when he comes on and explains the process, I just think it's really easy to buy in and believe it.

That doesn't mean we put our heads in the sand.

in analyzing things or stop asking questions or asking questions and trying to get answers to some of the other stuff.

Like, you know, it doesn't, that doesn't just all disappear yet.

It's going to take a while.

Show me, don't tell me for far more steps than just this one before you're totally convinced of the investment level, top to bottom.

I've said it before that a rebuild is not a time to cheap out on ancillary things.

flushing out coaching staffs, not just at the NHL level, but development staffs.

I've talked about how the Montreal Canadians had like seven or eight people on that.

And Vancouver right now currently just has one.

But also with that willingness, as you said, to understand that there's a process here and that Ryan Johnson's going to take some time to go through that book.

He told us he had of names of coaches that he's observed over the years in different roles in different organizations that have success to do things a certain way and

Um, that might be a fit here, whether it's on Manny staff or another job.

So, uh, all the other stuff is still valid.

It doesn't disappear because there's a bunch of good people who have earned our trust that are now in charge.

You still have to keep an eye open towards those things, but yes.

you believe very much that there is a process and you're willing to give them time to execute it and to go through it.

Yeah.

And he used the word patience, right?