Kevin Young

All that's to say,

This doubleness that you're talking about is really interesting to me and how we know that they weren't innocents, but there is still this kind of narrative.

They were such innocents, you say.

They took straight razors to clean faces, smoked and drank milk at the same time.

And does that kind of tension between this idea and this ideal –

create humor for you?

Or is it also these other feelings?

I think that's where I think it turns really interestingly.

Yeah.

is between I don't even know what starch is and then the testifying.

I mean, that's the moment it changes from sort of bro cream, you know, within four lines to, as you said, I'll bet back then was crummy too.

There's a kind of level of understatement there that I think also, for me at least, is also part of contributing to the humor.

Were you thinking of it being funny or was that like weird for you to think about in the end?

I love that word.

I remember bro cream enough, you know, perhaps.

I mean, not, black people don't use bro cream.

But I, you know, these are like, in a way, there's a kind of television quality.

There's a kind of screen-ness.

Yeah.

to what you're trying to write through.