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Keyu Jin

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1055 total appearances

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

There's an interesting dilemma here, which is that this is happening in a time of extreme economic softness, slowdown, and missed uncertainty, trade wars, a lack of confidence, slowdown in private investment and consumption, a withdrawal of foreign investment from China, especially the U.S.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

venture funding.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Imagine what China would have been like, let's say, if the economy was doing better, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

But you could also argue that it's because people feel threatened that they make more leaves.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Now, I wish the world is not, we don't have to drive each other to the corners to do something great, but that is the reality.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

And I don't think that there's an easy say between who wins, because I think the winning idea is part of the old playbook, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You're all kind of part of a network.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Different countries, different players have different choke points on each other.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

I don't think it's just about the U.S.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

and China.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

And what's more, you use your leverage once, and that leverage has a half-life.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

it becomes a lot less effective the second time around because other countries, other companies are going to try to substitute it away.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

You know, if China uses the rare earth leverage, which I think it is now a little bit, there will be alternatives and substitutes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Got to be very, very careful of what coercion leverage means.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Same thing with the U.S., right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

So I think this is all the old thinking of who wins, who dominates.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

I think we need a new playbook.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

I hope it was unintentional.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

Otherwise, you'd be questioning the level of intelligence of the U.S.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#477 – Keyu Jin: China’s Economy, Tariffs, Trade, Trump, Communism & Capitalism

administration, right?