Keza MacDonald

Whereas, you know, I really enjoyed Mario and I enjoyed Mario Kart.

You pronounce it Snez.

It's fun to say SNES.

In Europe, it's the SNES.

The SNES is how we refer to it over here.

that's right all right yeah so i mean zelda never was a sales success though like uh it was always the nerdy connoisseur's choice of the nintendo catalog which um i kind of you know it's in my the gatekeeper in me is kind of sad that it's become so popular because it was always like the one that you'd be like no it's all just really good guys you gotta listen um and then of course it's always been one of those series that really pushes games forward like as a whole in the in the 80s and 90s like new zelda games typically were new like

just in the entire continuum of video games, they'd do something really new and exciting.

But yeah, Breath of the Wild was the first proper bestseller.

I think Zelda Teen Wolf, or sorry, Twilight Princess, I think that sold about 7 million, but just not that many by comparison to Mario, which sells tens of millions.

And then Breath of the Wild came along and sold 20-something million, I think, in its first little while.

and became a really, really huge hit.

But I think Zelda and Mario are two different sides of Nintendo's personality.

Mario's the little spirit of play.

He's the toddler running around in a playground having a great time playing, seeing what his body can do.

And Link is the spirit of exploration and discovery.

And they're just different sides of Nintendo's playful personality, I think.

They can coexist.

They don't need to fight.

Being a Nintendo fan can be super, super annoying.

As a lifelong Nintendo fan, I really feel you.