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Kieran Kunhya

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Multimedia is what we call a patent minefield.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

There is two places where you have the most patents.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

It's everything related to 3G, 4G, 5G, RF and multimedia because it's very mathematical and you can get great gains and so on.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

So Google and Meta and Netflix wanted something where it was royalty free.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

There are people who say that they have patents outside, but they are fringe patents, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

So it's mostly true that it's patent-free.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Can you educate me at the patents side?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

So usually, so MPEG does a format, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

And then there is, everyone comes around and say, well, I have all those patents for the format.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

And they do usually a union called, was called MPEG LA, MPEG Licensing Association.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

And you put all the, all your patents in, and then you ask everyone who's using this format to pay for it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Uh, imagine I'm doing something where I'm going to, instead of doing blocks, which are square, I'm going to do rectangles, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Oh, so every idea.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Yes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Somebody patents it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

The biggest issue is not the following, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

Because at the time of H.264, the patents were, let's call it, like, sane.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

But there was so much money in that that for HEVC, a lot...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

there were a ton of things that were pushed inside the specification, which are not useful in 99.9% of the time, but just one could add a patent on it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#496 – FFmpeg: The Incredible Technology Behind Video on the Internet

And so it became that for HEVC licensing, there was MPEG-LA plus another patent pool called HEVC Advance,