Kieran Read

The Blues trying to switch it on and changing shed.

You can say it, but it's not deep down in there, right?

There's certain teams, I think the Chiefs and the Crusaders certainly will have that.

Do you think the current All Blacks have got that?

No, they don't.

But because they don't have the experiences of being out, the evidence of it happening, right?

Being put there.

Yeah, being put there and coming out the other side, I don't think so.

The Saracens have it.

Yes.

They definitely have it.

Because I've built this experience of games that are hard and I've come through and I've won.

And they've got the ability to know exactly who they are and exactly how they play.

So it's more than just the belief to come out of sticky situations.

It's belief to know how you play the game.

And the Saffcons know exactly how to play the game.

All Blacks right now probably don't.

There's opportunities with new staff and things.

And Hurricanes know exactly who they are.

I'd say the Crusaders and Chiefs are probably similar as well.