Kieran Read

We know what we're doing.

And we got to a point over those four years, between 11 and 15, where we were just pushing each other so, so much to get better and better.

that there was no way we're stagnant.

We were just, um, yeah, going for it.

So by the time we got to that world cup, it was a lot of fun.

Actually a lot of fun.

Cause we had, you know, out of the spotlight of New Zealand, you're in England, we're in places where, you know, in London, sometimes people don't even recognize you and you can get out and about and be like a normal tour and, um, things like that.

So yeah, you were definitely confident.

You still, uh, still got to go perform.

Yeah.

Uh, so you still got to get it right, get the prep right and everything.

But, yeah, it's a cool tournament to play in.

And, you know, we definitely knew that we were capable of winning and being world champions again.

And so that's probably the difference around our mentality into it.

It was awesome, eh?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Those boys are so cool to be a part of.

And yeah, for me, finding my role in it, like as kind of Richie's vice cap lieutenant and

I'd kept him aside a dozen times in that period through 12 to 15.