Kieran

Well, there was... Yeah, listen, and I'm not defending what happened in the past, not for a moment.

God knows I talked about it on a different forum in my previous employment plenty, but there was a misstatement of fees is what they said.

And as you said yourself, I mean, some of the people involved in that for health reasons haven't been

available to answer questions and it would be helpful if they were, but that doesn't look likely to change.

But I keep coming back to the point with you, Maurice, in terms of where we are today, that the issue, the reason we're talking about this today is because the current management who took over found a problem and identified it and fixed it and told the minister.

Well, that's kind of an impossible question to answer, isn't it?

They hope there's none, but...

No, they've done that.

They've done that.

And they're as confident as they can be.

But no one can say 100% there's never going to be a problem in this organisation ever again, can they?

But I don't know, and I appreciate, listen, you probably won't watch it, but Kevin Backers did say a little bit earlier this afternoon at that committee that he went way down beyond the top 10.

I think he said top 30 or 40.

So, you know, way outside it to find out whether

there would be any issue like the Derek Mooney issue, or that there was anybody kind of classified in the wrong way and that we'd be here again, which nobody wants.

And he said, no, there's not.

There's a salary cap.

You're not happy with the salary cap.

You think it should be lower.

So a new salary cap of €150,000.