Kieran

But like I say, the Eirobdis Committee doesn't necessarily allow for expansive answers.

Well, yeah, certainly somebody knew what had happened first because it was done on instruction.

That's the other thing we found out today.

I understand that.

This wasn't an accidental thing.

Yeah.

Well, it's not Kevin Backhurst.

It's someone else in RTE.

It's the producer today who I'd be in trouble with if I don't take a very short break.

But stay with us.

Dennis, what have you made of the latest controversy that RTE has found itself in?

The defence of some of those packages, I know, in the past from current management has been that...

again, they took legal advice and the legal advice was you've got to pay people out as per their contracts or you're going to find yourself in court and it's going to cost you an awful lot more money to fight this, potentially, than to just pay people.

It's not actually.

I'm in, if we call it the public sector, it's not technically, but if we call it that for six months, I spent the entire rest of my working life in the private sector.

It's not actually true that when people screw up, they get fired.

It's actually not.

We have really robust employment law in this country.

It's very hard to just fire someone.

Like a monumental screw-up it would want to be.