Kiran Stacey

And see what happens after if Andy Burnham becomes prime minister.

There are people who think that John Healey himself has been positioning himself as a potential leadership candidate.

There was a theory a few months ago that Keir Starmer would have to stand aside because of all the problems that have affected his government.

And that in the interim, before Andy Burnham finds a seat or whatever happens, you needed a steady as she goes type minister to take the reins.

John Healy being a classic example of that safe pair of hands.

Now that Andy Burnham's found a seat and if he wins, he'll be back in Westminster soon.

That kind of theory of the case seems to be somewhat undermined.

I don't quite see what the theory is for Westminster.

john healy as a relatively low key albeit capable minister to take over at this point when you've got someone like andy burnham who has a higher profile more charisma is more popular with the public um you never know he might have a go um he might just be positioning himself for whatever comes in the future but i would say you know to take the cynical hat off for a second this is a genuine dispute and i think he genuinely does feel quite strongly about it keeping an eye on him nonetheless kieran thank you so much for your time thank you

This is The Guardian.

Maybe the assassination was, like, not something that we... We don't know the full story.

Yeah, well, I mean, it comes in the context of a kind of ramping up of similar action over the last few months by the Home Office.

PICA and UGA are by no means the only people to have had their travel permission revoked in recent months to the UK.

They are unusual in that they are on the left of politics.

Mainly, we've had people on the right of politics being banned from travelling, whether that's Kanye West or whether that's a group of activists, commentators and politicians who are banned from coming to a rally hosted by Tommy Robinson, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, the far right agitator over here in the UK.

This has been happening quite a lot.

And these two are simply the latest to have this happen as a result of action by the Home Office.

Yeah, I mean, first thing to say is that we don't completely know because the Home Office doesn't have to say.

However, judging by some of the comments that have been flagged by people close to the Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, and have appeared in press reports, Hassan Paika, I think the comments that come up again and again...

ones where he said he would vote for Hamas over Israel.