Kirk Hamilton

And I do plan to keep playing this.

Every time I'm playing it, I'm just like, woo, I'm having a great time.

I think I'll probably stick with it and at least get to that eighth death.

And then I think by the end I'll have an even stronger idea of that.

But it is, I think, actually just really neat that we get these two very similar and yet different games from the same team to kind of just compare and contrast them and understand how their creative process has changed and how they approached the second crack a little differently than the first one.

Man, it's going to be a load off.

It's been kind of stressing me out, this whole seven deaths Hamilton thing.

It's hanging over me.

It doesn't matter that much.

I should just maybe go jump off a cliff a couple dozen times.

It's kind of the issue.

Poor Arjun.

He's like, what are you doing?

I'm like, well, look, I make a podcast.

He's like, I don't know what a podcast is.

It's been a long time since we had this.

It's like an audio log.

It's like an audio log.

All right, well, that is Saros, a very cool game for the PlayStation 5.

It's out now, and let's take a break, and then we'll be back for one more thing.