Kirk Herbstreit

Okay, we've seen them, like Sark, with what they do with Arch.

That's a little bit different because Sark was an NFL OC.

He's known for his ability to be more sophisticated, more NFL-like.

So with Arch, I think next year when they're evaluating him, I think it's going to be a little bit easier to evaluate based on what you see.

But I think the most underrated thing and most difficult thing to predict is

is the ability to process and beat a defense with your mind and not just look at my primary, he's covered, and take off and run.

Because we live in this era of dual threat quarterbacks.

The best athlete in high school used to be a running back, a receiver, a linebacker, a safety.

Now he's a quarterback.

and they go up to college, and they dominate, and then they go up into the NFL.

Caleb Williams is a great example of what Ben Johnson's trying to do with him in Chicago.

His whole life, imagine being the best athlete on the field, middle school, high school, college, Oklahoma, and then USC.

So when things get uncomfortable, his natural instinct...

is to go because he's done it so well.

And Ben Johnson this past year worked so hard in getting him to be like, trust it, go from A to B to C. Ben, let's not take away your ability to create.

We don't want to eliminate it, but let's not just go to that as the answer.

And so, I don't know, I think each guy's different, each guy and how you evaluate him.

I think that's what makes Fernando so interesting with Tom Brady being in Vegas is he's kind of a Tom Brady quarterback.

Yeah, he can move around a little bit.

We saw it in the national title.